1 00:00:04,641 --> 00:00:07,945 These two title MTV cartoon guys thought 2 00:00:08,012 --> 00:00:10,075 the band KISS was pretty cool 3 00:00:10,142 --> 00:00:12,182 -for a bunch of mimes. -Who is Beavis and Butt-Head? 4 00:00:12,249 --> 00:00:13,583 -Ben? -Who are Beavis and Butt-Head? 5 00:00:13,650 --> 00:00:15,819 -Yup! -Uh, TV character for 400. 6 00:00:15,886 --> 00:00:17,621 -From 1970 to-- -I'm not good 7 00:00:17,688 --> 00:00:19,522 at meeting people for the first time. 8 00:00:19,589 --> 00:00:23,260 -Hey. Nice to meet you. Nathan. -Pleased to meet you. How are you? Kor. 9 00:00:24,428 --> 00:00:27,865 -Oh, door city over here. -Uh, yes. 10 00:00:27,932 --> 00:00:29,766 -So, this is, um-- 11 00:00:29,833 --> 00:00:32,302 Basically, it's like a portal, I guess, on some levels. 12 00:00:32,369 --> 00:00:33,832 -Yeah. 13 00:00:33,899 --> 00:00:35,739 I have been told my personality 14 00:00:35,806 --> 00:00:37,440 can make people uncomfortable, 15 00:00:37,507 --> 00:00:40,343 so I have to work to offset that. 16 00:00:40,410 --> 00:00:44,849 Humor is my go-to instinct, but every joke is a gamble. 17 00:00:44,916 --> 00:00:47,785 -Shoes off or... -Oh, please walk as is. 18 00:00:47,852 --> 00:00:49,253 -And-- -Okay. Shirt off? 19 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,387 -Or? Just kidding. 20 00:00:50,454 --> 00:00:52,056 -I'll leave my shirt on. -It's not that-- 21 00:00:52,123 --> 00:00:53,557 No, it's not that kind of place. 22 00:00:53,624 --> 00:00:55,092 -No, it's not, I'm just kidding. 23 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:58,262 So far it was going well, and it had to, 24 00:00:58,329 --> 00:01:01,065 because I was about to ask this man to trust me 25 00:01:01,132 --> 00:01:03,200 with his life. 26 00:01:03,267 --> 00:01:07,032 Kor Skeet is a 50-year-old teacher from Brooklyn, New York, 27 00:01:07,099 --> 00:01:09,606 and there is nothing he loves more than trivia. 28 00:01:09,673 --> 00:01:12,176 I'm very good at television trivia. 29 00:01:12,243 --> 00:01:14,879 Who is the youngest person to ever be inducted 30 00:01:14,945 --> 00:01:16,381 into the Television Hall of Fame? 31 00:01:17,247 --> 00:01:18,482 It’s a female. 32 00:01:18,549 --> 00:01:21,052 -Who? -Oprah Winfrey. 33 00:01:21,119 --> 00:01:22,752 A few months ago, Kor responded 34 00:01:22,819 --> 00:01:26,756 to a vague Craigslist post I put on the internet, sharing a story 35 00:01:26,823 --> 00:01:29,794 about a lie he told his bar trivia team 36 00:01:29,861 --> 00:01:31,395 over 12 years ago. 37 00:01:31,462 --> 00:01:35,365 I, um, told my friends that I had an advanced degree, 38 00:01:35,432 --> 00:01:39,069 and I didn't. I play trivia with them often, 39 00:01:39,136 --> 00:01:40,770 and the problem was that I... 40 00:01:40,837 --> 00:01:43,106 um, wanted to seem like I was smarter than I was. 41 00:01:43,173 --> 00:01:46,210 My teammates all had advanced degrees. 42 00:01:46,277 --> 00:01:47,478 I decided to let them think 43 00:01:47,545 --> 00:01:50,582 I had a master’s degree when I was just getting 44 00:01:50,649 --> 00:01:52,377 my bachelor's. 45 00:01:52,444 --> 00:01:56,920 -Oh, wow! You've quite a collection. -Yeah, I'm a bibliophile. 46 00:01:56,987 --> 00:02:01,391 "How to Make Love All Night and Drive a Woman Wild?" 47 00:02:01,458 --> 00:02:03,593 -Well, you know? -I think we're gonna get along 48 00:02:03,660 --> 00:02:06,163 -pretty well. -Well, 49 00:02:06,230 --> 00:02:07,664 -I don't know about that. I-- -Yeah. 50 00:02:07,731 --> 00:02:09,332 -And now it's gotten 51 00:02:09,399 --> 00:02:11,834 to the point where he's lying to them every day. 52 00:02:11,901 --> 00:02:14,571 I have a friend on the team that keeps sending me, 53 00:02:14,638 --> 00:02:18,242 um, jobs that require a master’s degree. 54 00:02:18,309 --> 00:02:20,443 So now, it's being shoved back in my face again, 55 00:02:20,510 --> 00:02:22,980 and I'm running out of excuses. 56 00:02:23,047 --> 00:02:24,982 NATHAN: I understand his dilemma. 57 00:02:25,049 --> 00:02:27,418 This trivia team is his life. 58 00:02:27,485 --> 00:02:29,620 And when you reveal your true self, 59 00:02:29,687 --> 00:02:31,923 people don't always like what they see. 60 00:02:31,990 --> 00:02:33,424 But I wanted to show him 61 00:02:33,491 --> 00:02:35,592 that if you plan for every variable, 62 00:02:35,659 --> 00:02:38,930 a happy outcome doesn't have to be left to chance. 63 00:02:42,333 --> 00:02:45,102 I assume you've seen some of my previous work? Or... 64 00:02:45,169 --> 00:02:48,371 -I'm afraid I haven't. -Okay. Um... 65 00:02:48,438 --> 00:02:51,008 It's-- I made a show called Nathan For You. 66 00:02:51,075 --> 00:02:52,277 Oh, okay. 67 00:02:53,277 --> 00:02:55,312 Didn't you say your trivia specialty 68 00:02:55,379 --> 00:02:56,613 is television shows? 69 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,916 It is but there's even a limitation on that. 70 00:02:58,983 --> 00:03:01,018 -Oh, okay. 71 00:03:01,085 --> 00:03:02,520 -Um... -Yeah. 72 00:03:02,587 --> 00:03:04,149 I mean, you should check it out. 73 00:03:04,216 --> 00:03:06,657 -Oh, I mean, definitely. -But a lot of it involved 74 00:03:06,724 --> 00:03:09,260 -working with real people... -Yeah. 75 00:03:09,327 --> 00:03:11,161 ...so I'd have to put myself in all these 76 00:03:11,228 --> 00:03:15,332 uncertain environments and I became really good 77 00:03:15,399 --> 00:03:19,236 at predicting how people would act in a future situation. 78 00:03:19,303 --> 00:03:21,638 -Okay, okay. -For example. 79 00:03:21,705 --> 00:03:24,241 -Yeah. -Like this conversation's going 80 00:03:24,308 --> 00:03:27,111 -pretty well, right? -Okay, I'd like to continue it. 81 00:03:27,178 --> 00:03:28,712 I mean, do you think so? I don't know. 82 00:03:28,779 --> 00:03:31,215 -Yeah. I'm-- So far, so good. -I mean, we've been having fun. 83 00:03:31,282 --> 00:03:32,316 -Yes. -I assume we have been 84 00:03:32,383 --> 00:03:34,517 -sharing some laughs so far. -Yeah. Yeah. 85 00:03:34,584 --> 00:03:36,754 -I hope to continue that way. 86 00:03:36,821 --> 00:03:38,856 So, that's no accident. 87 00:03:40,524 --> 00:03:43,060 Everything that's happened so far today, 88 00:03:43,127 --> 00:03:46,463 I have rehearsed it dozens of times. 89 00:03:46,530 --> 00:03:50,134 These exact words, in a replica of your home, 90 00:03:50,201 --> 00:03:53,837 -with an actor playing you. -Okay. 91 00:03:53,904 --> 00:03:57,341 Remember a couple of weeks ago, when the gas company came by 92 00:03:57,408 --> 00:03:59,643 because of a leak in your building? 93 00:03:59,710 --> 00:04:03,080 -Yes... -Well, there wasn't a leak 94 00:04:03,147 --> 00:04:04,481 in your building, that was my team. 95 00:04:04,548 --> 00:04:07,451 -FAKE GAS COMPANY WORKER: 96 00:04:07,518 --> 00:04:09,586 Now, when you gave them access, they secretly made 97 00:04:09,653 --> 00:04:11,756 a digital map of your entire home. 98 00:04:13,457 --> 00:04:15,426 We then recreated every detail of this space 99 00:04:15,493 --> 00:04:19,329 as a physical set in a warehouse a few miles from here. 100 00:04:19,396 --> 00:04:21,731 And with the help of a fake you, I could practice 101 00:04:21,798 --> 00:04:24,969 every single permutation of this interaction 102 00:04:25,036 --> 00:04:26,203 and have a plan for it. 103 00:04:26,270 --> 00:04:29,306 I mean, do you think I should say something about the doors? 104 00:04:29,373 --> 00:04:32,742 The actor I hired analyzed your submission video 105 00:04:32,809 --> 00:04:35,279 to mimic your speech patterns and psychology. 106 00:04:35,346 --> 00:04:38,182 Well, it's me with my-- my parents, I was-- 107 00:04:38,249 --> 00:04:41,018 I can't remember, maybe I was about ten? 108 00:04:41,085 --> 00:04:44,088 "How to Make Love All Night and Drive a Woman Wild?" 109 00:04:44,155 --> 00:04:46,123 -Yeah, that was a... -I feel like we're gonna 110 00:04:46,190 --> 00:04:48,092 -get along pretty well. 111 00:04:48,159 --> 00:04:49,761 NATHAN: And we tried over and over. 112 00:04:49,828 --> 00:04:51,362 -Hi. Nathan. -Hey. 113 00:04:51,429 --> 00:04:53,130 -Hi. Nathan. -Hi. Hey, hi. 114 00:04:53,197 --> 00:04:55,332 -Hi. Nathan. -Hi. Hi. 115 00:04:55,399 --> 00:04:57,901 -Oh, door city over here. Huh? 116 00:04:57,968 --> 00:05:01,404 And I'd adjust each time until I perfected it. 117 00:05:01,471 --> 00:05:03,406 -Or shoes off? -No, no, no, 118 00:05:03,473 --> 00:05:04,608 you can leave them on, it's fine. 119 00:05:04,675 --> 00:05:05,676 All right. What about shirt off? 120 00:05:05,743 --> 00:05:08,173 -Leave it on, please. 121 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,847 Yeah, so that will probably make him laugh. 122 00:05:09,914 --> 00:05:12,516 So everything that's happened so far today, 123 00:05:12,583 --> 00:05:15,152 I have rehearsed it dozens of times. 124 00:05:15,219 --> 00:05:16,720 These exact words, 125 00:05:16,787 --> 00:05:20,359 in a replica of your home, with an actor playing you. 126 00:05:20,925 --> 00:05:21,893 Wow! 127 00:05:24,729 --> 00:05:25,762 Wow! 128 00:05:25,829 --> 00:05:29,667 This is what we can do for your lie with your friends. 129 00:05:29,734 --> 00:05:31,268 -Yeah, uh-huh. -Your trivia, like, 130 00:05:31,335 --> 00:05:32,603 this is the potential 131 00:05:32,670 --> 00:05:35,172 -is what I am saying. -I see. Like a person, if I had 132 00:05:35,239 --> 00:05:39,176 the ability to know-- if I knew what-- how the other person 133 00:05:39,243 --> 00:05:40,344 or other people are gonna react, 134 00:05:40,411 --> 00:05:41,612 or how the situation is gonna go... 135 00:05:41,679 --> 00:05:42,980 -You'll know. -Yeah. 136 00:05:43,047 --> 00:05:45,148 You'll know what exactly to say for every possible way. 137 00:05:45,215 --> 00:05:47,717 Well-- Oh, then that would be extremely appealing, yes. 138 00:05:47,784 --> 00:05:50,687 But as we kept talking, I began to understand 139 00:05:50,754 --> 00:05:53,892 the real reason he had been putting this off for so long. 140 00:05:54,392 --> 00:05:55,492 Mm. Well, 141 00:05:55,559 --> 00:05:58,563 it's good except for one thing. Suppose one of my friends 142 00:05:58,630 --> 00:05:59,864 might give a reaction 143 00:05:59,931 --> 00:06:02,366 that's very, very violent on some people, 144 00:06:02,433 --> 00:06:05,870 even beyond the several predictions you can make. 145 00:06:06,671 --> 00:06:08,472 What do you mean by violent? 146 00:06:08,539 --> 00:06:11,008 -So-- -Like, you know, call me names 147 00:06:11,075 --> 00:06:12,944 and saying things that are so unforgivable 148 00:06:13,011 --> 00:06:15,847 that I couldn't be their friend after that. 149 00:06:17,381 --> 00:06:19,952 Who are you worried about specifically? 150 00:06:20,718 --> 00:06:23,287 Uh... 151 00:06:23,354 --> 00:06:26,156 Um, I'd rather not reveal the name, 152 00:06:26,223 --> 00:06:28,592 not at this point, but um... 153 00:06:28,659 --> 00:06:31,963 it's definitely someone that's on the team. 154 00:06:32,030 --> 00:06:34,164 I found myself in an odd situation. 155 00:06:35,533 --> 00:06:37,229 Kor was willing to point out his friend 156 00:06:37,296 --> 00:06:39,070 in a photo, but he wouldn't tell me 157 00:06:39,137 --> 00:06:40,738 anything else about her. 158 00:06:40,805 --> 00:06:42,373 She looks so nice, what is it about her? 159 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,875 Oh, she's a nice person, very nice, but... 160 00:06:45,443 --> 00:06:46,778 Hmm, how do I put it? 161 00:06:47,178 --> 00:06:49,079 Uh, if she-- 162 00:06:49,146 --> 00:06:51,683 Depending on her mood, you don't wanna cross her 163 00:06:51,750 --> 00:06:54,685 -too much. -Oh, my God! Okay. 164 00:06:54,752 --> 00:06:57,254 It was frustrating. My rehearsal for today 165 00:06:57,321 --> 00:07:00,057 was designed to get him to open up about this stuff, 166 00:07:00,124 --> 00:07:03,028 but perhaps I had done something to put him off. 167 00:07:03,995 --> 00:07:06,197 Thinking back, there was a somewhat 168 00:07:06,264 --> 00:07:09,866 off-color joke I tried after a trip to the bathroom. 169 00:07:09,933 --> 00:07:12,403 Oh, my gosh, I should start traveling with a plunger. 170 00:07:12,470 --> 00:07:16,340 -Ooh! -Good? 171 00:07:16,407 --> 00:07:17,508 You think he'd find that funny? Or-- 172 00:07:17,575 --> 00:07:18,709 -Yeah. -But when I did it 173 00:07:18,776 --> 00:07:21,078 with the real Kor, it didn't land. 174 00:07:21,145 --> 00:07:23,914 Oh, my God, I should start traveling with a plunger. 175 00:07:23,981 --> 00:07:26,683 -Oh, well, well. -Hmm? 176 00:07:26,750 --> 00:07:29,621 -Oh, well. 177 00:07:32,356 --> 00:07:34,525 -Are they expensive? -No. No. 178 00:07:36,026 --> 00:07:37,796 Could that joke have been it? 179 00:07:38,796 --> 00:07:41,498 I'd intended the joke to be self-deprecating 180 00:07:41,565 --> 00:07:44,101 about my unpredictable bowel movements, 181 00:07:44,168 --> 00:07:47,170 but reflecting on it later, I realized he could have 182 00:07:47,237 --> 00:07:48,638 interpreted it as a criticism 183 00:07:48,705 --> 00:07:50,976 that his bathroom was under-equipped. 184 00:07:52,242 --> 00:07:54,879 Whatever the reason, I couldn't stage a rehearsal 185 00:07:54,946 --> 00:07:57,981 for Kor with no details about his friend. 186 00:07:58,048 --> 00:08:00,651 So, I planned a day trip for us upstate, 187 00:08:00,718 --> 00:08:03,620 that was strategically designed to endear me to him 188 00:08:03,687 --> 00:08:05,823 and hopefully, get him to open up. 189 00:08:05,890 --> 00:08:07,557 -Have you ever been? -Never. 190 00:08:07,624 --> 00:08:08,959 -You've never? -I-- Never in my entire life. 191 00:08:09,026 --> 00:08:11,228 So, your last name is Skeet and you've never been 192 00:08:11,295 --> 00:08:13,531 -skeet shooting? -No, no. 193 00:08:13,598 --> 00:08:14,967 -Oops. 194 00:08:18,002 --> 00:08:19,537 Pull. 195 00:08:23,241 --> 00:08:24,709 Pull. 196 00:08:27,178 --> 00:08:28,245 I didn't tell Kor, 197 00:08:28,312 --> 00:08:29,341 but I had arranged ahead... 198 00:08:29,408 --> 00:08:30,481 -Pull. -...of time to have 199 00:08:30,548 --> 00:08:31,682 the guns loaded with blanks, 200 00:08:31,749 --> 00:08:33,183 -in the hopes... -Pull. 201 00:08:33,250 --> 00:08:34,885 ...that it would create a moment of bonding, 202 00:08:34,952 --> 00:08:36,989 because we were both bad at this. 203 00:08:41,058 --> 00:08:42,960 -Huh? -You fired too early, man. 204 00:08:43,027 --> 00:08:44,194 I fired too early. 205 00:08:44,261 --> 00:08:45,730 Wow, we are not good at this. 206 00:08:45,797 --> 00:08:47,398 -Eh. 207 00:08:47,465 --> 00:08:49,268 But it's nice to have a new experience. 208 00:08:49,867 --> 00:08:50,867 Yeah. 209 00:08:50,934 --> 00:08:52,570 But this was just laying the groundwork 210 00:08:52,637 --> 00:08:53,938 for the main event. 211 00:08:54,005 --> 00:08:56,741 The mutual disclosure of personal information 212 00:08:56,808 --> 00:08:58,341 in a heated pool. 213 00:08:58,408 --> 00:09:00,845 -You mentioned you were married. 214 00:09:00,912 --> 00:09:04,683 Yes, I was married for five years. 215 00:09:10,054 --> 00:09:13,625 -I was married for three years. -Oh, didn't know that. 216 00:09:15,493 --> 00:09:16,795 Is it sad for you? 217 00:09:19,630 --> 00:09:21,833 I consider it one of my, um... 218 00:09:22,867 --> 00:09:25,235 one of the bigger failures of my life. 219 00:09:25,302 --> 00:09:28,107 -One of the what? -Biggest failures of my life. 220 00:09:40,451 --> 00:09:42,787 I didn't want to go too deep into my private life, 221 00:09:42,854 --> 00:09:45,255 so I'd pre-planned for an elderly swimmer 222 00:09:45,322 --> 00:09:46,190 to interrupt us, 223 00:09:46,257 --> 00:09:47,957 in the hopes that it would convince Kor 224 00:09:48,024 --> 00:09:51,763 I was ready to share more had the moment not been ruined. 225 00:09:53,164 --> 00:09:56,799 I wasn't sure if my portrayal of vulnerability was convincing, 226 00:09:56,866 --> 00:09:59,536 but on the ride home, Kor finally told me the name 227 00:09:59,603 --> 00:10:03,106 of his trivia friend, Tricia, and what she did for a living. 228 00:10:03,173 --> 00:10:04,642 -She's been mostly 229 00:10:04,709 --> 00:10:08,379 a freelance writer and she has, um, 230 00:10:08,446 --> 00:10:11,415 a blog, gives information about things you could do 231 00:10:11,482 --> 00:10:13,818 to save money and have fun. 232 00:10:14,952 --> 00:10:18,455 -What's the blog called? -Cheap Chick in the City. 233 00:10:18,522 --> 00:10:21,893 -"Cheap Chick in the City"? -Cheap Chick in the City. 234 00:10:25,096 --> 00:10:29,134 -Cheap Check in the City. -Cheap Chick in the City. 235 00:10:31,730 --> 00:10:36,275 -Cheap Check in the City. -Cheap Chick in the City. 236 00:10:37,608 --> 00:10:39,643 -Cheap Chick in the City 237 00:10:39,710 --> 00:10:41,311 seemed to be a bare-bones website 238 00:10:41,378 --> 00:10:44,447 dedicated to low-cost activities in New York. 239 00:10:44,514 --> 00:10:47,484 I was hoping it would be a window into Tricia's psyche, 240 00:10:47,551 --> 00:10:50,787 but it seemed like the majority of posts were just apologies 241 00:10:50,854 --> 00:10:54,158 for not having anything to post that day. 242 00:10:54,225 --> 00:10:57,862 I understand that. Sometimes you don't wanna say anything, 243 00:10:57,929 --> 00:11:00,765 but you do want people to know you exist. 244 00:11:03,201 --> 00:11:06,198 Regardless, I was hopeful this blog would be enough 245 00:11:06,265 --> 00:11:07,271 for the rehearsal actress 246 00:11:07,338 --> 00:11:09,707 we'd hire to base her performance on, 247 00:11:09,774 --> 00:11:12,076 in addition to Kor's insights. 248 00:11:12,143 --> 00:11:14,477 Uh, she has a... 249 00:11:14,544 --> 00:11:19,316 an appeal for an actor named Vincent... um, Karth-- Karthreiser. 250 00:11:19,383 --> 00:11:21,985 But unfortunately, it wasn't enough. 251 00:11:22,052 --> 00:11:24,288 I mean, I think it's really useful 252 00:11:24,355 --> 00:11:26,756 to get a sense of what their reactions might be, 253 00:11:26,823 --> 00:11:29,692 and the kinds of words that they might use. 254 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:31,328 So, to get her better access, 255 00:11:31,395 --> 00:11:34,798 I decided to create a blog of my own called Thrifty Boy, 256 00:11:34,865 --> 00:11:36,900 and offered Tricia the opportunity 257 00:11:36,967 --> 00:11:40,805 to write an article for us. And luckily, she took the gig. 258 00:11:42,641 --> 00:11:43,940 Her article would entail 259 00:11:44,007 --> 00:11:46,911 interviewing a professional bird watcher for our site, 260 00:11:46,978 --> 00:11:50,015 because bird watching is a thrifty thing to do. 261 00:11:51,082 --> 00:11:52,382 But what Tricia didn't know 262 00:11:52,449 --> 00:11:55,152 is that she'd be interviewing her own doppelgänger, 263 00:11:55,219 --> 00:11:57,856 who would be studying her every move. 264 00:12:05,229 --> 00:12:08,365 -Nice to meet you. -TRICIA: 265 00:12:08,432 --> 00:12:10,369 Tricia? Oh, that's my daughter's name. 266 00:12:14,705 --> 00:12:17,575 Um, I do love hummingbirds. 267 00:12:17,642 --> 00:12:18,775 At first glance, 268 00:12:18,842 --> 00:12:21,312 this woman didn't seem frightening at all, 269 00:12:21,379 --> 00:12:22,913 but she did like to talk. 270 00:12:22,980 --> 00:12:24,281 But you know my dad is really into birds. 271 00:12:24,348 --> 00:12:25,610 -Oh, yeah? -He seriously has like-- 272 00:12:25,677 --> 00:12:26,817 He lives in North Carolina, which I guess, 273 00:12:26,884 --> 00:12:28,219 apparently, there's a very big bird show there. 274 00:12:28,286 --> 00:12:29,720 A really good book called The Huntress, 275 00:12:29,787 --> 00:12:32,056 -and I do recommend it. It's World War II. -Okay. 276 00:12:32,123 --> 00:12:34,691 But otherwise, I mean, aside from my roommates, I'm actually 277 00:12:34,758 --> 00:12:35,993 pretty happy with the way things are, 278 00:12:36,060 --> 00:12:37,661 but my roommate's definitely... 279 00:12:37,728 --> 00:12:39,163 You know, like, "Hey, I'm running late," 280 00:12:39,230 --> 00:12:41,933 like, but maybe he found a payphone, maybe, but like... 281 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,967 One time, like, the plane started plunging, so 282 00:12:44,034 --> 00:12:45,302 -after that, like... -Oh. 283 00:12:45,369 --> 00:12:47,104 I still get kind of nervous when I'm in a plane and... 284 00:12:47,171 --> 00:12:49,506 Over the course of the 30-minute encounter, 285 00:12:49,573 --> 00:12:52,342 our actress had trouble getting a single word in, 286 00:12:52,409 --> 00:12:55,145 even though she was the one being interviewed. 287 00:12:55,212 --> 00:12:56,914 So, I have all the apps, you know, for the different, 288 00:12:56,981 --> 00:13:00,017 you know, airlines, on my phone, ready to go, 289 00:13:00,084 --> 00:13:01,418 -whenever I need to fly. -Yeah. 290 00:13:01,485 --> 00:13:04,020 American Airlines, Delta, um, Gogo inflight entertainment. 291 00:13:04,087 --> 00:13:06,490 But before it was over, I wanted to get a sense 292 00:13:06,557 --> 00:13:09,627 of how Tricia would respond to being lied to. 293 00:13:09,694 --> 00:13:10,928 Data that would be crucial 294 00:13:10,995 --> 00:13:12,262 -for our rehearsal. 295 00:13:12,329 --> 00:13:13,765 There's actually something I need 296 00:13:13,832 --> 00:13:15,833 -to come clean about. Um... -Okay. 297 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:17,000 FAKE TRICIA: I said early on that 298 00:13:17,067 --> 00:13:18,468 my daughter's name was Tricia... 299 00:13:18,535 --> 00:13:20,904 -Mm-hmm. -...but that was actually a lie. 300 00:13:20,971 --> 00:13:22,072 -Oh, okay. -I don't-- 301 00:13:22,139 --> 00:13:24,641 -I don't have a daughter. Um... -Oh, wow! Okay. 302 00:13:24,708 --> 00:13:26,609 I guess I should have guessed when you said you were 39, 303 00:13:26,676 --> 00:13:28,880 'cause it's a little young to have a daughter these days. 304 00:13:28,947 --> 00:13:30,647 -That's okay, that's funny, 305 00:13:30,714 --> 00:13:32,349 'cause I was like, I mean, like I said, 306 00:13:32,416 --> 00:13:33,750 you don't meet too many other Tricias, 307 00:13:33,817 --> 00:13:35,286 so I was a little surprised, but you know, 308 00:13:35,353 --> 00:13:38,121 that's-- Yeah, that's interesting, but I understand. 309 00:13:38,188 --> 00:13:40,791 -I'm sorry that I... -It's fine, no worries. 310 00:13:40,858 --> 00:13:42,226 Do you have any funny moments that you had 311 00:13:42,293 --> 00:13:45,796 with a bird? With birds? Or any fun stories about birds? 312 00:13:45,863 --> 00:13:50,067 -I was surprised by how not mad Tricia was. 313 00:13:50,134 --> 00:13:52,635 Was Kor worried for nothing, or was Tricia 314 00:13:52,702 --> 00:13:57,174 just able to bottle up her rage because it was a stranger? 315 00:13:57,241 --> 00:14:00,477 Kor was so convinced she would have an extreme reaction 316 00:14:00,544 --> 00:14:02,012 that he insisted the confession 317 00:14:02,079 --> 00:14:05,649 could only go down one-on-one, in a public place. 318 00:14:05,716 --> 00:14:09,352 Trivia would be, I think, the only place that would not arouse suspicion, 319 00:14:09,419 --> 00:14:12,056 because that's something we do out of habit already. 320 00:14:12,123 --> 00:14:14,391 -Okay. -I can probably get her 321 00:14:14,458 --> 00:14:17,560 in a trivia event, by ourselves, just between she and I. 322 00:14:17,627 --> 00:14:20,731 -But when I saw the trivia bar Kor frequents, 323 00:14:20,798 --> 00:14:22,800 I was overwhelmed by the chaos 324 00:14:22,867 --> 00:14:24,334 -of the environment. 325 00:14:24,401 --> 00:14:25,970 This is footage I collected 326 00:14:26,037 --> 00:14:27,337 from the Alligator Lounge 327 00:14:27,404 --> 00:14:30,607 in Brooklyn, and it seemed like any aspect of this space 328 00:14:30,674 --> 00:14:35,112 could radically transform the tone of his big moment. 329 00:14:35,179 --> 00:14:38,215 I had learned this firsthand when I met Kor. 330 00:14:38,282 --> 00:14:40,150 I thought I would look cool, 331 00:14:40,217 --> 00:14:42,953 but due to just a slight difference in chairs, 332 00:14:43,020 --> 00:14:45,154 I looked like a fool. 333 00:14:45,221 --> 00:14:48,225 -It's hard to say what about this place 334 00:14:48,292 --> 00:14:50,427 could affect Kor's confession, 335 00:14:50,494 --> 00:14:53,597 but I did notice there were a lot of chairs, 336 00:14:53,664 --> 00:14:56,501 and I didn't want to leave anything to chance. 337 00:14:57,996 --> 00:15:00,270 Kor had messaged Tricia to play trivia with him 338 00:15:00,337 --> 00:15:04,976 in just under two weeks' time. This is where it would happen. 339 00:15:05,043 --> 00:15:08,113 The place where he would finally come clean. 340 00:15:09,113 --> 00:15:11,944 So with the clock now ticking, I invited Kor 341 00:15:12,011 --> 00:15:15,354 into my secret warehouse to begin his rehearsal. 342 00:15:20,124 --> 00:15:22,560 Wow, this is... 343 00:15:22,627 --> 00:15:24,995 ...the perfect replica. 344 00:15:25,062 --> 00:15:26,964 I mean, that's not even a funhouse version of it. 345 00:15:27,031 --> 00:15:30,535 It has-- It looks... Wow! 346 00:15:34,471 --> 00:15:37,174 Every detail was meticulously replicated 347 00:15:37,241 --> 00:15:39,444 -this time. -Oh, my gosh! 348 00:15:41,479 --> 00:15:42,646 Oh, my gosh! 349 00:15:42,713 --> 00:15:46,116 This spice rack, it's the exact spices they have, the garlic... 350 00:15:46,183 --> 00:15:47,552 -Yeah. -...the basil. 351 00:15:47,619 --> 00:15:49,353 This chair is an exact-- 352 00:15:49,420 --> 00:15:50,888 -This-- These rips-- -Wow! 353 00:15:50,955 --> 00:15:53,290 -Yeah, and that, even that's... -Well... 354 00:15:53,357 --> 00:15:56,026 ...exactly the way it is. The portrait kind of tilts. 355 00:15:56,093 --> 00:16:00,130 You see that balloon there? That's in the real bar. 356 00:16:00,197 --> 00:16:04,436 Wow! It'll be like walking in, in a normal level, 357 00:16:04,503 --> 00:16:05,336 and then being able 358 00:16:05,403 --> 00:16:08,005 -to know my bearings. -When you show up 359 00:16:08,072 --> 00:16:11,074 on the actual night, it'll feel just like this. 360 00:16:11,141 --> 00:16:13,210 -Yes. -No surprises. 361 00:16:13,277 --> 00:16:14,812 -No. -You know everything 362 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:16,048 that's gonna happen. 363 00:16:19,550 --> 00:16:22,219 There's something strange about entering a space 364 00:16:22,286 --> 00:16:25,055 that's indistinguishable from another. 365 00:16:25,122 --> 00:16:28,725 In moments, you can forget where you are. 366 00:16:28,792 --> 00:16:32,529 To me, it's like-- It's a little surreal at times because... 367 00:16:32,596 --> 00:16:34,164 -...I mean it's like... 368 00:16:34,231 --> 00:16:35,900 You're the, um... 369 00:16:35,967 --> 00:16:38,435 You're Willy Wonka in the Chocolate Factory 370 00:16:38,502 --> 00:16:42,272 and I'm Charlie Bucket, trying to get the-- 371 00:16:42,339 --> 00:16:45,009 I don't remember the plot fully, what did Willy Wonka do? 372 00:16:45,076 --> 00:16:46,543 -Was he good? -Well, he created-- 373 00:16:46,610 --> 00:16:48,311 -Wasn't he a bad guy? -Well, he had 374 00:16:48,378 --> 00:16:52,717 some questionable things, he was this mysterious, um... 375 00:16:52,784 --> 00:16:55,185 Uh, factory full of candy, 376 00:16:55,252 --> 00:16:56,620 -basically. -But I'm Willy-- 377 00:16:56,687 --> 00:16:59,190 -I'm the bad guy in the story? -Well, but he's a dream maker. 378 00:16:59,257 --> 00:17:00,457 -Okay. -And you're doing-- 379 00:17:00,524 --> 00:17:02,159 You're making some dreams happen for me. 380 00:17:02,226 --> 00:17:03,760 But kids died in the factory. 381 00:17:03,827 --> 00:17:07,231 Well, they supposedly died, I don't know for sure 382 00:17:07,298 --> 00:17:08,432 -if they actually-- -Okay. 383 00:17:08,499 --> 00:17:11,068 But they didn't get some good fate out of it. 384 00:17:11,135 --> 00:17:14,905 I'll read the book again just to... to look into it. 385 00:17:14,972 --> 00:17:16,139 Yeah. 386 00:17:26,551 --> 00:17:28,352 It's good. 387 00:17:28,419 --> 00:17:32,023 We started with basic blocking, and the first choice 388 00:17:32,090 --> 00:17:34,524 Kor would have to make is where to sit. 389 00:17:34,591 --> 00:17:36,428 -What's yours? This one? -Yep. Yes. 390 00:17:38,195 --> 00:17:40,097 -Yeah. -Good? 391 00:17:40,164 --> 00:17:41,799 Kor proposed that on the night, 392 00:17:41,866 --> 00:17:43,028 he would arrive early, 393 00:17:43,095 --> 00:17:46,170 and secure his favorite table using his hat 394 00:17:46,237 --> 00:17:48,405 while he went to grab their trivia sheet and drinks 395 00:17:48,472 --> 00:17:50,040 for the two of them from the bar. 396 00:17:50,107 --> 00:17:54,211 -Hi, can I help you? -Yes, can I have an orange juice, no pulp, 397 00:17:54,278 --> 00:17:56,781 -and a margarita, please? -Coming right up. 398 00:17:59,150 --> 00:18:00,650 Is that a margarita? What is it? 399 00:18:00,717 --> 00:18:02,453 -What did you put in it? -I don't know-- Just make-- 400 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,853 I don't know how to make a margarita. 401 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,123 He thought that greeting Tricia with a drink 402 00:18:06,190 --> 00:18:08,092 would help put her in a good mood, 403 00:18:08,159 --> 00:18:10,060 since she normally shows up at trivia 404 00:18:10,127 --> 00:18:11,628 complaining about something. 405 00:18:11,695 --> 00:18:14,098 My roommates are driving me crazy, and just, 406 00:18:14,165 --> 00:18:15,265 it's one of those days where you're like, 407 00:18:15,332 --> 00:18:16,533 "You don't need to be rude." 408 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,269 I think it's just, like, we're all human beings here. 409 00:18:18,336 --> 00:18:20,404 And he suggested trying to joke with her 410 00:18:20,471 --> 00:18:21,772 to lighten her spirits. 411 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:26,210 I would guess I would say, um... 412 00:18:26,277 --> 00:18:27,877 I'm gonna probably give you a little buzz tonight 413 00:18:27,944 --> 00:18:31,281 because I'm sure someone's plucking your nerves today. 414 00:18:31,348 --> 00:18:33,150 Okay, is that a joke? Or just a line-- 415 00:18:33,217 --> 00:18:35,585 -It'll be more of a joke. -Okay. 416 00:18:35,652 --> 00:18:38,856 For every way Tricia could react, I would input 417 00:18:38,923 --> 00:18:40,257 a planned response from Kor 418 00:18:40,324 --> 00:18:43,160 into specialized flowchart software. 419 00:18:43,227 --> 00:18:44,729 -Hey. -Hi, Trish the dish. 420 00:18:44,796 --> 00:18:45,928 How you doing? 421 00:18:45,995 --> 00:18:48,298 This would allow us to chart the optimal path 422 00:18:48,365 --> 00:18:49,533 through the evening. 423 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,502 Are you-- Are you starting with presidents? 424 00:18:51,569 --> 00:18:54,070 -No, I'm starting with twins. -Oh, you went twins and then 425 00:18:54,137 --> 00:18:56,606 -go to presidents? -I started with twins and I connected to-- 426 00:18:56,673 --> 00:18:58,042 -And then go to the presidents? -Yeah. 427 00:18:58,109 --> 00:18:59,043 Okay. 428 00:18:59,110 --> 00:19:00,743 A decision tree that would guide us towards 429 00:19:00,810 --> 00:19:04,115 key milestones and help us avoid pitfalls. 430 00:19:04,182 --> 00:19:05,682 -Hey. Hi, man. -Hi. Trish the Dish. 431 00:19:05,749 --> 00:19:07,984 Kor had told me there was a chance Tricia could 432 00:19:08,051 --> 00:19:12,050 misinterpret his invitation as a sign of romantic interest. 433 00:19:12,117 --> 00:19:14,725 I mean, she's a single person and I guess... 434 00:19:14,792 --> 00:19:19,198 uh, that after all these years, I'm inviting her by myself. 435 00:19:19,530 --> 00:19:20,430 Right. 436 00:19:20,497 --> 00:19:22,867 You know I don't drink very much, 437 00:19:22,934 --> 00:19:23,801 you trying to get me drunk? 438 00:19:23,868 --> 00:19:25,770 But when we ran that simulation, 439 00:19:25,837 --> 00:19:27,571 he gave confusing signals. 440 00:19:27,638 --> 00:19:30,107 You're leaving your hand touching hers right there. 441 00:19:30,174 --> 00:19:31,341 Well, if I move it then 442 00:19:31,408 --> 00:19:33,210 it's gonna bring more suspicion to it. 443 00:19:33,277 --> 00:19:34,444 I mean, how as a woman, 444 00:19:34,511 --> 00:19:35,974 how would you take that? If you touched 445 00:19:36,041 --> 00:19:37,714 a guy's hand and he just left it there. 446 00:19:37,781 --> 00:19:39,883 She could read that as you flirting back. 447 00:19:39,950 --> 00:19:41,018 Right. 448 00:19:41,085 --> 00:19:43,921 So, I had Kor practice some standard defenses 449 00:19:43,988 --> 00:19:45,589 to any advance she might make. 450 00:19:45,656 --> 00:19:47,958 I think it's really nice of you to get me a drink. 451 00:19:48,025 --> 00:19:49,259 I feel like it's um... 452 00:19:49,326 --> 00:19:51,628 Just, yeah, it's nice to go like, come and... 453 00:19:51,695 --> 00:19:53,964 But, of course, all this was designed 454 00:19:54,031 --> 00:19:56,094 to lay the perfect foundation for him to confess his lie. 455 00:19:56,161 --> 00:19:57,434 -to confess his lie. 456 00:19:57,501 --> 00:19:59,303 Did I tell you what happened with my laptop? 457 00:19:59,370 --> 00:20:00,370 -No, no idea. -Yeah, so, I-- 458 00:20:00,437 --> 00:20:01,805 The other day I went to switch it on 459 00:20:01,872 --> 00:20:04,741 and it just didn't switch on, and like, it was, you know that 460 00:20:04,808 --> 00:20:06,543 thing of-- I was in the middle of writing something, 461 00:20:06,610 --> 00:20:09,413 so I'm thinking I'm gonna lose the pictures that are in there-- 462 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,249 Well, it's funny that you think about losing, I wanted-- 463 00:20:12,316 --> 00:20:14,551 -This might-- -It sounds heavy, but actually, 464 00:20:14,618 --> 00:20:16,753 don't worry because I-- This story turned around, 465 00:20:16,820 --> 00:20:18,755 like, I didn't actually end up losing the photos 466 00:20:18,822 --> 00:20:21,158 and the stuff, but I did have to take it to get it fixed. 467 00:20:21,225 --> 00:20:23,760 Kor, I think you need to take control 468 00:20:23,827 --> 00:20:25,863 of the conversation, she's not gonna give you an opening. 469 00:20:25,930 --> 00:20:27,598 -Oh, okay. -If you just let her talk 470 00:20:27,665 --> 00:20:28,999 she's just gonna keep talking, right? 471 00:20:29,066 --> 00:20:31,401 I'll try just one more time. To see if I can find another 472 00:20:31,468 --> 00:20:33,638 pattern into breaking into the conversation. 473 00:20:33,705 --> 00:20:34,806 Okay. Try it. 474 00:20:34,873 --> 00:20:36,273 FAKE TRICIA: Like, he just couldn't make 475 00:20:36,340 --> 00:20:37,174 any kind of conversation 476 00:20:37,241 --> 00:20:39,043 and like, he suddenly said like, something 477 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:41,144 about, like, pineapple being a member 478 00:20:41,211 --> 00:20:42,213 of the citrus family, and like-- 479 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,984 My educational situation is a fraud. 480 00:20:47,684 --> 00:20:49,686 -What? 481 00:20:49,753 --> 00:20:51,455 But just starting his confession 482 00:20:51,522 --> 00:20:54,459 wasn't the only challenge. Kor was most worried 483 00:20:54,526 --> 00:20:55,859 about the aftermath. 484 00:20:55,926 --> 00:20:59,096 So, our entire approach had to be planned around the format 485 00:20:59,163 --> 00:21:00,864 of this particular trivia night. 486 00:21:00,931 --> 00:21:03,633 Well, there's, uh, um, usually six questions per round, 487 00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:06,537 it’s about four rounds. After round two, they usually 488 00:21:06,604 --> 00:21:08,139 have a ten to 15-minute break. 489 00:21:08,206 --> 00:21:10,207 We're gonna take a ten-minute break, and I'm gonna add up 490 00:21:10,274 --> 00:21:11,408 all your scores. 491 00:21:11,475 --> 00:21:12,777 And then during that time, 492 00:21:12,844 --> 00:21:15,079 uh, sometimes we would order some pizza. 493 00:21:15,146 --> 00:21:17,514 Here are your two tickets for pizza. 494 00:21:17,581 --> 00:21:19,817 The ideal thing would be to talk about it for five minutes 495 00:21:19,884 --> 00:21:22,819 and then, yeah, move on. I don't want to linger, 496 00:21:22,886 --> 00:21:26,556 I just wanna say it and then pretty much have it dropped. 497 00:21:26,623 --> 00:21:28,025 So, you don't have a master's degree? 498 00:21:28,092 --> 00:21:30,994 No. I just don't want you to send me any more information 499 00:21:31,061 --> 00:21:34,159 -about jobs that have a master’s degree-- -Definitely not gonna do that. 500 00:21:34,226 --> 00:21:35,933 Like, I really wanna understand like, why-- 501 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,367 How did we end up here? 502 00:21:37,434 --> 00:21:38,769 So, you just wanna shut it down. 503 00:21:38,836 --> 00:21:40,804 I wanna shut it down. So, at least if I do it toward 504 00:21:40,871 --> 00:21:43,206 the end, then the benefit is I can leave if I think, 505 00:21:43,273 --> 00:21:44,641 "Okay, too hairy," and say, "Oops, 506 00:21:44,708 --> 00:21:46,976 I have an appointment to go to, sorry, I have to go." 507 00:21:47,043 --> 00:21:49,379 I don't owe you an explanation for that, I really don't. 508 00:21:49,446 --> 00:21:51,382 I owe you an apology for putting you through that, 509 00:21:51,449 --> 00:21:53,050 but I don't feel I owe you an explanation. 510 00:21:53,117 --> 00:21:55,086 All right, well, can we like, discuss it after the trivia? 511 00:21:55,153 --> 00:21:58,689 I don't wanna discuss it any longer about the situation. 512 00:21:58,756 --> 00:22:01,825 So, I'd rather say it at least after the last round, 513 00:22:01,892 --> 00:22:03,460 -but before the scores. 514 00:22:03,527 --> 00:22:05,928 All right, start finishing up your ballots 515 00:22:05,995 --> 00:22:08,326 and bring them up to score when you're ready, all right? 516 00:22:08,393 --> 00:22:10,433 But as soon as we started incorporating 517 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:12,902 full rounds of trivia into our rehearsal, 518 00:22:12,969 --> 00:22:14,939 -it revealed a problem. 519 00:22:15,006 --> 00:22:20,379 What is the number on the roof of the bus in Speed? 520 00:22:20,945 --> 00:22:22,312 -What... -Wow! 521 00:22:22,379 --> 00:22:25,648 FAKE TRIVIA HOST: ...is the number on the roof of the bus in Speed? 522 00:22:25,715 --> 00:22:28,185 Kor became entranced by the game, 523 00:22:28,252 --> 00:22:29,754 and when he didn't know an answer, 524 00:22:29,821 --> 00:22:31,854 he couldn't focus on anything else. 525 00:22:31,921 --> 00:22:33,924 That's right, I'm gonna lose some points on this one. 526 00:22:33,991 --> 00:22:35,593 -Yeah. -I thought I would have known, 527 00:22:35,660 --> 00:22:37,327 uh, who hosted Wheel of Fortune 528 00:22:37,394 --> 00:22:38,862 -before Pat Sajak. -Okay. 529 00:22:38,929 --> 00:22:41,365 And I had 10,000 names in my head but I couldn't 530 00:22:41,432 --> 00:22:42,599 -pinpoint anybody. -Sure. 531 00:22:42,666 --> 00:22:46,269 Okay, well, do you wanna go into the confession? 532 00:22:46,336 --> 00:22:48,439 Or do you wanna try that or... 533 00:22:48,506 --> 00:22:50,907 Uh... It's the option... 534 00:22:50,974 --> 00:22:53,077 And he grew frustrated that the stress of having 535 00:22:53,144 --> 00:22:56,713 to confess this lie was affecting his trivia game. 536 00:22:56,780 --> 00:23:00,518 I'm not gonna take the chance to miss good questions 537 00:23:00,585 --> 00:23:02,619 because I'm having this burden, 538 00:23:02,686 --> 00:23:03,821 'cause we can actually just lose points 539 00:23:03,888 --> 00:23:05,722 because the concentration is off-- 540 00:23:05,789 --> 00:23:08,192 Right, but who cares if you lose the game? 541 00:23:08,259 --> 00:23:09,359 You got this off your chest, 542 00:23:09,426 --> 00:23:11,128 I mean, it's just one night of bar trivia. 543 00:23:11,195 --> 00:23:15,699 No. One night of bar trivia is sacrosanct to us. 544 00:23:15,766 --> 00:23:17,067 And that's when he told me that 545 00:23:17,134 --> 00:23:19,736 if it wasn't going well on the actual trivia night, 546 00:23:19,803 --> 00:23:22,573 he might bail on the confession entirely. 547 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,742 No, I would not-- I'm not sacrificing trivia night. 548 00:23:24,809 --> 00:23:26,844 -Not for that, no. -Isn't it just for fun? 549 00:23:26,911 --> 00:23:28,811 -Like everyone's drunk, right? -No. 550 00:23:28,878 --> 00:23:30,982 Then I'm gonna have two things against me, 551 00:23:31,049 --> 00:23:35,513 I mess up a good trivia night and I, um, lied to her. 552 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:38,723 So, to me, I gotta take one of them out of the equation. 553 00:23:40,424 --> 00:23:42,526 -Okay. 554 00:23:42,593 --> 00:23:44,662 I had gone to incredible lengths 555 00:23:44,729 --> 00:23:46,629 to eliminate all uncertainty 556 00:23:46,696 --> 00:23:49,033 from the night. But the only way to know 557 00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:51,868 the actual trivia questions that the real host 558 00:23:51,935 --> 00:23:55,172 would be asking would involve some sort of cheating, 559 00:23:55,239 --> 00:23:56,841 and that would be unethical. 560 00:23:58,842 --> 00:24:02,379 But maybe it's more unethical to leave things to chance 561 00:24:02,446 --> 00:24:04,716 when there's something you could have done. 562 00:24:07,984 --> 00:24:10,821 -So, posing as the founder of the popular blog 563 00:24:10,888 --> 00:24:13,157 Thrifty Boy, I arranged an interview 564 00:24:13,224 --> 00:24:16,227 with the real trivia host at one of the other bars he hosts at... 565 00:24:16,294 --> 00:24:17,261 -Hey. -Oh, hey. Nice to meet you. 566 00:24:17,328 --> 00:24:18,461 NATHAN: ...under the pretense of doing 567 00:24:18,528 --> 00:24:20,865 a Thrifty Boy trivia night feature. 568 00:24:20,932 --> 00:24:23,034 Now, is it mandatory to buy drinks? 569 00:24:23,101 --> 00:24:25,469 Because our readers really don't like to spend money. 570 00:24:25,536 --> 00:24:29,006 There's-- We have not had a problem with having 571 00:24:29,073 --> 00:24:32,376 people forced to buy drinks or food. 572 00:24:32,443 --> 00:24:34,211 And does the bar charge for seltzer water, 573 00:24:34,278 --> 00:24:35,373 or is that free? 574 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,947 That's up to each individual establishment. 575 00:24:37,014 --> 00:24:38,249 -And to-- I think... -Very cool, okay. 576 00:24:38,316 --> 00:24:40,517 I told him we wanted the profile to include 577 00:24:40,584 --> 00:24:43,087 an interactive video component in which he would 578 00:24:43,154 --> 00:24:45,390 read the questions for the Alligator Lounge's 579 00:24:45,457 --> 00:24:46,857 upcoming trivia night 580 00:24:46,924 --> 00:24:49,193 to camera, so our readers could play along 581 00:24:49,260 --> 00:24:50,427 at home for free. 582 00:24:50,494 --> 00:24:54,259 What conflict began in 1789 583 00:24:54,326 --> 00:24:58,068 and led to the beheading of Louis XVI? 584 00:24:58,135 --> 00:25:00,670 It was one thing to get the trivia questions 585 00:25:00,737 --> 00:25:04,208 for the big night, but making sure Kor knew the answers 586 00:25:04,275 --> 00:25:05,608 would be its own challenge. 587 00:25:05,675 --> 00:25:07,645 So, I don't know why Archie had trouble choosing them 588 00:25:07,712 --> 00:25:08,946 except for the personality 589 00:25:09,013 --> 00:25:10,608 cause they look physically the same. 590 00:25:10,675 --> 00:25:13,117 I knew that cheating at trivia was something 591 00:25:13,184 --> 00:25:14,685 Kor doesn't tangle with. 592 00:25:14,752 --> 00:25:17,021 Have you ever cheated at trivia? 593 00:25:17,088 --> 00:25:18,822 No. 594 00:25:18,889 --> 00:25:21,924 So we started going on daily walks just to chat 595 00:25:21,991 --> 00:25:25,896 about life, but I was actually using these casual strolls 596 00:25:25,963 --> 00:25:29,400 to covertly implant every single trivia answer 597 00:25:29,467 --> 00:25:31,568 into Kor's brain without him knowing. 598 00:25:31,635 --> 00:25:34,372 If you ever need to get in, the code is 1789. 599 00:25:34,439 --> 00:25:35,338 Oh, okay. 600 00:25:35,405 --> 00:25:37,375 Like the year the French Revolution started... 601 00:25:37,442 --> 00:25:38,676 -Yes. -...in 1789. 602 00:25:38,743 --> 00:25:40,844 -I'm not a big summer person. -Uh-huh. 603 00:25:40,911 --> 00:25:42,179 -And I'm not a big... -Oh, shit! 604 00:25:42,246 --> 00:25:45,250 -...spring person. -It's all over my DKNY pants. 605 00:25:45,916 --> 00:25:47,852 Donna Karan New York, DKNY. 606 00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:49,854 -Only in New York. 607 00:25:50,721 --> 00:25:52,224 Building's looking pretty tall. 608 00:25:53,924 --> 00:25:56,526 It is tall, but it's not the tallest building in the world. 609 00:25:56,593 --> 00:25:58,896 That'll be the Burj Khalifa in Dubai. 610 00:25:58,963 --> 00:26:04,234 -The Burj Khalifa? Huh. -Yup. The Burj Khalifa. 611 00:26:04,301 --> 00:26:05,304 Tallest building. 612 00:26:06,370 --> 00:26:08,939 -What's going on here? -It's a hostage situation, 613 00:26:09,006 --> 00:26:11,043 guy has four people at gunpoint. 614 00:26:12,176 --> 00:26:13,979 Shot someone in the head on his way in. 615 00:26:14,612 --> 00:26:15,813 Oh, my God! That's nuts. 616 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,915 -Oh, my gosh. -It's days like these 617 00:26:17,982 --> 00:26:20,052 that I curse the Chinese for inventing gunpowder. 618 00:26:21,346 --> 00:26:23,153 -Wow! -That's crazy. Oh, my God. 619 00:26:23,220 --> 00:26:25,322 Well, good luck to you, sir. Good luck with the whole 620 00:26:25,389 --> 00:26:26,618 -process. -Oh, my God. 621 00:26:26,685 --> 00:26:28,793 -Prayers for the family. 622 00:26:34,965 --> 00:26:37,367 With just three days to go until Kor would meet up 623 00:26:37,434 --> 00:26:40,470 with Tricia at the real Alligator Lounge, I had over 624 00:26:40,537 --> 00:26:45,375 30 actors occupy the space, playing customers, servers. 625 00:26:45,442 --> 00:26:49,614 We had real beer on tap and even a working simulation 626 00:26:49,681 --> 00:26:50,950 of their pizza oven. 627 00:26:59,523 --> 00:27:02,292 Each time we ran through the night, new variables 628 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,130 were introduced that he would have to adapt to. 629 00:27:06,597 --> 00:27:08,700 With a special focus on the moment 630 00:27:08,767 --> 00:27:10,067 when he'd be confessing. 631 00:27:10,134 --> 00:27:12,770 I gotta tell you something, and it's been eating 632 00:27:12,837 --> 00:27:14,038 -at me for years. -Oh, yeah? 633 00:27:14,105 --> 00:27:15,439 Hey guys, how we doing over here? 634 00:27:15,506 --> 00:27:16,740 -Good. -I'm fine, thank you. 635 00:27:16,807 --> 00:27:18,208 Can we get you another drink? Can I get you a drink? 636 00:27:18,275 --> 00:27:20,144 -I think we're good. -Okay, Kor, so you probably 637 00:27:20,211 --> 00:27:23,113 don't want the interruption happening during the confession, 638 00:27:23,180 --> 00:27:24,816 so maybe you make sure your drink isn't empty 639 00:27:24,883 --> 00:27:26,017 -at this point in the night. -Okay. 640 00:27:26,084 --> 00:27:28,185 -Right? So, maybe tiny sips. -Right. 641 00:27:28,252 --> 00:27:30,921 -Can you just take tinier sips? -I got it, take tiny sips. 642 00:27:30,988 --> 00:27:34,892 We ran through the entire night 13 times. 643 00:27:34,959 --> 00:27:37,227 But unlike real life, in here, 644 00:27:37,294 --> 00:27:39,430 you can always hit the reset button 645 00:27:39,497 --> 00:27:40,998 and start over. 646 00:27:41,065 --> 00:27:44,136 It was the one place on earth you couldn't fail. 647 00:27:44,902 --> 00:27:46,471 Orange juice, no pulp. 648 00:27:46,538 --> 00:27:47,604 Hope you don't mind? 649 00:27:47,671 --> 00:27:49,008 I decided to give you a little buzz. 650 00:27:51,208 --> 00:27:54,013 I decided to... ...give you a little buzz. 651 00:27:55,612 --> 00:27:57,715 It’s something that's been eating at me for a long time. 652 00:27:57,782 --> 00:27:59,118 Oh, yeah? 653 00:28:00,445 --> 00:28:02,186 It's been eating at me for this-- 654 00:28:02,253 --> 00:28:03,355 forever, and I wanna... 655 00:28:04,288 --> 00:28:05,257 I just wanna tell you. 656 00:28:06,725 --> 00:28:08,025 -No pulp. -Okay. 657 00:28:08,092 --> 00:28:09,126 I gotta tell you something. 658 00:28:09,193 --> 00:28:11,196 This has been eating at me for years. 659 00:28:12,296 --> 00:28:15,232 My whole educational status has been a scam. 660 00:28:17,702 --> 00:28:19,202 Just based after my childhood, 661 00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:21,499 I guess there's some issues there. Some insecurities 662 00:28:21,566 --> 00:28:24,007 I haven't been able to face until now. 663 00:28:24,074 --> 00:28:27,244 As we neared the end, Kor seemed to be testing 664 00:28:27,311 --> 00:28:28,845 new approaches, 665 00:28:28,912 --> 00:28:31,348 but that didn't mean Tricia always took it well. 666 00:28:31,415 --> 00:28:33,951 I don't understand why you felt the need to lie 667 00:28:34,018 --> 00:28:36,148 about your education. I mean, it's really messed up. 668 00:28:37,321 --> 00:28:38,789 -I-- -For years, 669 00:28:38,856 --> 00:28:40,457 we were trying to help you get a job 'cause you said 670 00:28:40,524 --> 00:28:42,426 you had a master's degree, and that was all bullshit! 671 00:28:43,594 --> 00:28:45,395 -Well, I was just trying to-- -Is this what you think 672 00:28:45,462 --> 00:28:48,432 a friendship is? Like, you have no respect for me, no respect 673 00:28:48,499 --> 00:28:52,870 for my time. I don't give a crap about your education. 674 00:28:52,937 --> 00:28:54,338 But-- 675 00:28:54,405 --> 00:28:58,941 but 12 years of deception, that's-- Twelve years! 676 00:28:59,008 --> 00:29:03,615 It's unforgivable. I don't wanna talk to you again. 677 00:29:03,682 --> 00:29:04,883 Please don't go. 678 00:29:09,019 --> 00:29:11,121 He lied about having a master's degree. 679 00:29:11,188 --> 00:29:13,090 I just heard their conversation. 680 00:29:13,157 --> 00:29:14,826 No master’s degree? 681 00:29:14,893 --> 00:29:16,260 FAKE PATRON 3: This guy is such a fraud. 682 00:29:16,327 --> 00:29:18,162 Who doesn't have a master's degree? 683 00:29:18,229 --> 00:29:21,166 And the loser of tonight's trivia is... 684 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,500 Kor Skeet. 685 00:29:32,176 --> 00:29:35,775 Are you sure you wanna do this? For sure? 686 00:29:38,182 --> 00:29:41,218 Well, it still felt good that I got it off my chest, 687 00:29:41,285 --> 00:29:44,289 even if it means I might lose a friendship in the process. 688 00:29:47,491 --> 00:29:50,861 Like... I don't think it'll go that bad. 689 00:29:50,928 --> 00:29:53,232 -Oh. Mm-hmm. -But... 690 00:29:54,498 --> 00:29:58,068 I'm literally going into the unknown, 691 00:29:58,135 --> 00:30:00,471 the pit of the alligator, and... 692 00:30:00,538 --> 00:30:03,803 he's gonna swallow me up or let me go free. 693 00:30:26,030 --> 00:30:28,065 We had planned for Kor to get there early 694 00:30:28,132 --> 00:30:31,368 to secure his chosen table. But when he arrived, 695 00:30:31,435 --> 00:30:35,372 there was a problem. The table was taken. 696 00:30:35,439 --> 00:30:39,176 Fortunately, we had rehearsed for this exact scenario. 697 00:30:39,243 --> 00:30:42,312 Sorry to bother you, my grandmother died of like, 698 00:30:42,379 --> 00:30:44,815 -brain cancer recently... -Same. 699 00:30:44,882 --> 00:30:48,152 ...and this-- Terrible thing. This table here 700 00:30:48,219 --> 00:30:49,586 -is like a sentimental thing. 701 00:30:49,653 --> 00:30:52,823 Um, I know you're all settled here but would you 702 00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:54,326 consider to moving to another area? 703 00:30:55,426 --> 00:30:57,461 -I know it sounds outrageous. -PATRON: 704 00:30:57,528 --> 00:30:59,129 -Yeah, if you want. -Oh, that'd be nice of you. 705 00:30:59,196 --> 00:31:00,432 -Thank you so much. -No worries. 706 00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:05,235 -Oh, I'm so sorry about that. -PATRON: 707 00:31:10,742 --> 00:31:13,077 -Do you have any orange juice? -Yes. 708 00:31:13,144 --> 00:31:14,712 Do you have it with no pulp? 709 00:31:14,779 --> 00:31:17,415 -Thank you so much. -BARTENDER: 710 00:31:17,482 --> 00:31:18,550 Thank you so much. 711 00:31:24,889 --> 00:31:26,491 Hello! 712 00:31:27,792 --> 00:31:29,694 -Hey! -Trish the dish. 713 00:31:29,761 --> 00:31:32,262 -Gosh! -Now what? 714 00:31:32,329 --> 00:31:36,133 -I decided to get you a rum and coke, a little buzz. 715 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,570 'Cause I'm sure everyone's been plucking on your nerves, 716 00:31:38,637 --> 00:31:40,105 -or someone you know-- -TRICIA: 717 00:32:06,297 --> 00:32:07,431 -I can understand that. -TRICIA: 718 00:32:07,498 --> 00:32:09,867 As expected, Tricia showed up 719 00:32:09,934 --> 00:32:11,734 not in the best of spirits, 720 00:32:11,801 --> 00:32:15,272 but Kor knew exactly what to talk about to cheer her up. 721 00:32:15,339 --> 00:32:17,709 -Um, the Bush twins. 722 00:32:17,776 --> 00:32:19,309 -TRICIA: -Yeah, Jenna and Laura. 723 00:32:19,376 --> 00:32:24,014 They're the only two children of a president, that are twins. 724 00:32:24,081 --> 00:32:26,250 -TRICIA: -With all the presidents, 725 00:32:26,317 --> 00:32:27,784 -sometimes having eight or nine kids. -TRICIA: 726 00:32:27,851 --> 00:32:30,487 -And none of them had twins within that range. -TRICIA: 727 00:32:30,554 --> 00:32:33,991 -Not even stillborn twins, not even like in that situation. -TRICIA: 728 00:32:34,058 --> 00:32:35,092 So he's the only one. 729 00:32:36,426 --> 00:32:37,995 Kor was sticking to the script, 730 00:32:38,062 --> 00:32:39,062 and it was working. 731 00:32:39,129 --> 00:32:41,598 He's the earliest president we have that had 732 00:32:41,665 --> 00:32:44,935 like-- has grandchildren still living from that generation. 733 00:32:45,002 --> 00:32:46,237 That is so crazy. 734 00:32:46,304 --> 00:32:48,773 And before long, it was time for trivia. 735 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,107 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, 736 00:32:50,174 --> 00:32:52,175 the moment you all have been waiting for, 737 00:32:52,242 --> 00:32:54,077 we're gonna start playing trivia. 738 00:32:54,144 --> 00:32:56,113 What mode of transportation places 739 00:32:56,180 --> 00:32:59,316 the rider in a laid-back, reclining position, 740 00:32:59,383 --> 00:33:04,354 distributing the rider's weight comfortably over a large area? 741 00:33:04,421 --> 00:33:07,491 Uh, these freaking recumbent bikes are everywhere. 742 00:33:08,626 --> 00:33:10,060 TRIVIA HOST: What mode of transportation 743 00:33:10,127 --> 00:33:13,930 places the rider in a laid-back reclining position, 744 00:33:13,997 --> 00:33:19,102 distributing the rider's weight comfortably over a large area? 745 00:33:19,169 --> 00:33:21,639 Probably a train. I think Amtrak did that but I'm not sure. 746 00:33:21,706 --> 00:33:24,075 Uh... Or it could be a bike, 747 00:33:24,142 --> 00:33:25,576 or something like that, one of those reclining bikes? 748 00:33:25,643 --> 00:33:27,812 But you don't really, recline the seat of a bike, 749 00:33:27,879 --> 00:33:28,912 -right? -Yeah. 750 00:33:28,979 --> 00:33:31,282 Kor was slightly off on the first question, 751 00:33:31,349 --> 00:33:34,184 and I was worried these answers weren't fully absorbed 752 00:33:34,251 --> 00:33:35,586 into his brain. 753 00:33:35,653 --> 00:33:38,588 The correct answer to that is a recumbent bike. 754 00:33:38,655 --> 00:33:40,324 -This is like, really-- -Yeah, I knew it was a bike. 755 00:33:40,391 --> 00:33:43,360 But I-- I know-- I've seen it, but I couldn't imagine the name. 756 00:33:43,427 --> 00:33:44,862 I've, uh-- I've heard the name. 757 00:33:44,929 --> 00:33:46,129 I wouldn't know the name. 758 00:33:46,196 --> 00:33:48,465 But then, things started to turn around. 759 00:33:48,532 --> 00:33:51,769 The correct answer is the French Revolution. 760 00:33:51,836 --> 00:33:54,438 -Look at you! 761 00:33:54,505 --> 00:33:56,408 The correct answer, gunpowder. 762 00:33:57,741 --> 00:33:59,143 And the correct answer to that 763 00:33:59,210 --> 00:34:01,045 is called Burj Khalifa. 764 00:34:01,112 --> 00:34:02,146 Good! 765 00:34:03,647 --> 00:34:06,383 It was an amazing streak that continued until the end 766 00:34:06,450 --> 00:34:09,786 of round four, and he seemed to be brimming with confidence 767 00:34:09,853 --> 00:34:13,090 by the time he got up to hand in his score sheet, 768 00:34:13,157 --> 00:34:15,726 marking the start of his window to come clean. 769 00:34:15,793 --> 00:34:19,729 -Thank you. I'll be right back. 770 00:34:19,796 --> 00:34:22,566 In our fake bar, we had practiced an option 771 00:34:22,633 --> 00:34:24,702 where he would get pizza for both of them 772 00:34:24,769 --> 00:34:26,203 right after the fourth round, 773 00:34:26,270 --> 00:34:28,238 so it would be easier for him to initiate 774 00:34:28,305 --> 00:34:30,908 the confession while her mouth was full, 775 00:34:30,975 --> 00:34:33,010 and since she was in a chatty mood, 776 00:34:33,077 --> 00:34:35,580 it seemed like he had decided to go for it. 777 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,547 Two cheese pizzas, please. 778 00:34:37,614 --> 00:34:40,484 Two cheese? Okay, ten minutes. 779 00:34:40,551 --> 00:34:42,920 -Okay. -But then, something happened. 780 00:34:48,126 --> 00:34:49,661 When he returned to the table 781 00:34:49,728 --> 00:34:50,861 to wait for his pizzas, 782 00:34:50,928 --> 00:34:55,365 Tricia wasn't talking. It was the perfect opportunity 783 00:34:55,432 --> 00:34:58,836 to begin his confession, but for some reason, 784 00:34:58,903 --> 00:35:00,139 he wasn't doing it. 785 00:35:03,307 --> 00:35:05,270 -Yeah. Yeah. -Okay. 786 00:35:05,337 --> 00:35:08,212 The pizza tastes better after a certain, uh, period of time, 787 00:35:08,279 --> 00:35:10,647 the pizza's good but then, after a couple of rounds, 788 00:35:10,714 --> 00:35:14,218 it really hits it in... 789 00:35:14,285 --> 00:35:15,719 Hits it to the last spot. 790 00:35:15,786 --> 00:35:18,121 Especially after a couple rums and cokes. 791 00:35:42,513 --> 00:35:45,884 And as the clock kept ticking, he just sat there. 792 00:36:14,478 --> 00:36:16,146 In this case, ask over the lady 793 00:36:16,213 --> 00:36:18,048 who'd take the pizza, the faster it comes. 794 00:36:18,115 --> 00:36:19,851 TRICIA: 795 00:36:22,019 --> 00:36:23,121 Oh, my gosh. 796 00:36:23,188 --> 00:36:24,956 TRICIA: 797 00:36:25,023 --> 00:36:27,426 -TRICIA: 798 00:36:32,662 --> 00:36:35,465 You know, there's been, uh, something on my mind 799 00:36:35,532 --> 00:36:38,668 -I've had to deal with and um... 800 00:36:38,735 --> 00:36:41,606 -You know, uh, maybe it's there? -That's right. 801 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,204 Hang on a second. 802 00:36:45,343 --> 00:36:47,344 Okay. Okay. 803 00:36:47,411 --> 00:36:48,613 Almost around the corner. 804 00:36:55,252 --> 00:36:57,454 -What's up? -Hmm. They ring the bell, 805 00:36:57,521 --> 00:36:58,822 they're getting closer to making the pizza. 806 00:36:58,889 --> 00:37:01,492 Well, I guess so. Now what were you saying before? 807 00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:07,030 I feel bad that-- This has been bothering me a long time 808 00:37:07,097 --> 00:37:08,631 -to tell you this. -What's that? 809 00:37:08,698 --> 00:37:11,569 Um, my whole educational life has been, like, uh, 810 00:37:11,636 --> 00:37:13,804 -kind of a fraud. -Really? 811 00:37:13,871 --> 00:37:15,438 Yeah. 812 00:37:15,505 --> 00:37:18,341 See, remember when I was showing pictures of my graduation 813 00:37:18,408 --> 00:37:19,543 -a couple years ago? -Yeah, sure. 814 00:37:19,610 --> 00:37:21,145 In front of the gang and everything like that? 815 00:37:21,212 --> 00:37:23,213 -Yeah. -And then you asked at the time, 816 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,050 um, said that I got a master's degree. 817 00:37:26,117 --> 00:37:28,013 -Mm-hmm. -And I... 818 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,821 -And I kinda went along with it. -Really? 819 00:37:30,888 --> 00:37:32,323 -Yeah. -Wow. 820 00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:35,226 I felt kinda bad because I didn't wanna level with you 821 00:37:35,293 --> 00:37:37,261 -about that. -Okay. Well... 822 00:37:37,328 --> 00:37:39,830 I was only going for my bachelor's degree 823 00:37:39,897 --> 00:37:41,831 at the time. 824 00:37:41,898 --> 00:37:43,867 It's still pretty impressive. I mean, you know, lots of people 825 00:37:43,934 --> 00:37:45,369 -don't have master's degrees. 826 00:37:45,436 --> 00:37:46,737 -Yeah. -It's cool, I'm not surprised, 827 00:37:46,804 --> 00:37:48,939 but like, 'cause I thought you had a master's but... 828 00:37:49,006 --> 00:37:51,810 -Hang on a second, one second. 829 00:37:53,312 --> 00:37:54,311 Yeah, thank you. 830 00:37:54,378 --> 00:37:55,747 -Two cheese? -Yes. Thank you. 831 00:38:11,462 --> 00:38:12,629 So, wow. I didn't realize you didn't have 832 00:38:12,696 --> 00:38:14,331 your master's degree, 'cause I thought you did. 833 00:38:14,398 --> 00:38:16,699 -That's what you said before. -Yeah, yeah, I've-- 834 00:38:16,766 --> 00:38:18,769 See the thing is that, um, what made it worse 835 00:38:18,836 --> 00:38:21,199 was I came into the group, the trivia group... 836 00:38:21,266 --> 00:38:22,706 -Mm-hmm. -...I was, like, the last person 837 00:38:22,773 --> 00:38:24,008 that even had a college degree. 838 00:38:24,075 --> 00:38:25,971 -Mm-hmm. -And I kinda felt like inferior 839 00:38:26,038 --> 00:38:27,210 -about that. -That's so silly, 840 00:38:27,277 --> 00:38:28,378 don't you feel upset about that. 841 00:38:28,445 --> 00:38:29,713 Lots of people barely even finish high school. 842 00:38:29,780 --> 00:38:32,016 My sister only got her GED like two years ago. 843 00:38:32,083 --> 00:38:33,350 You know? 844 00:38:33,417 --> 00:38:35,519 Well, I just, um, you know, 845 00:38:35,586 --> 00:38:37,688 and I kept that lie going on all that time. 846 00:38:37,755 --> 00:38:40,791 And it kinda ate at me and then, you helped me, you know, 847 00:38:40,858 --> 00:38:43,594 apply for jobs, so it actually went that far to even 848 00:38:43,661 --> 00:38:45,462 send my résumé just to appease you. 849 00:38:45,529 --> 00:38:48,431 Oh, wow, I appreciate that so much, I had no idea. 850 00:38:48,498 --> 00:38:50,401 And I feel-- You know? I just... 851 00:38:52,336 --> 00:38:53,804 My friendship with you means a great deal. 852 00:38:53,871 --> 00:38:55,072 -Me too. -And I don't want you 853 00:38:55,139 --> 00:38:58,175 to think that I would even continue lying to you. 854 00:38:58,242 --> 00:39:00,242 But you know, I've been living this lie all this time and 855 00:39:00,309 --> 00:39:02,879 -I kinda felt bad about that. -Well, it's so sweet to finally tell me, I had no idea. 856 00:39:02,946 --> 00:39:04,548 But, like-- It's, you know, it's very brave of you 857 00:39:04,615 --> 00:39:06,116 to tell me this, and I really had no clue. 858 00:39:06,183 --> 00:39:08,718 Instead of trying to move on to another topic, 859 00:39:08,785 --> 00:39:12,556 Kor sat with her for the next hour-and-a-half and began 860 00:39:12,623 --> 00:39:15,187 sharing things that he had never told Tricia 861 00:39:15,254 --> 00:39:17,627 in their nearly 20 years of friendship. 862 00:39:17,694 --> 00:39:20,864 ...And my father used the situation where he sent 863 00:39:20,931 --> 00:39:23,768 the child support, which could be for my college education, 864 00:39:23,835 --> 00:39:25,602 -for me and my sister. -Wow! 865 00:39:25,669 --> 00:39:28,905 And by the time we came of age, he doesn't wanna pay for it. 866 00:39:28,972 --> 00:39:31,808 Wow, that's rough. I'm sorry to hear that. I really am. 867 00:39:31,875 --> 00:39:34,211 And what made it worse was when I was graduating... 868 00:39:41,418 --> 00:39:43,154 NATHAN: While we were practicing, 869 00:39:43,221 --> 00:39:44,321 I also had Kor 870 00:39:44,388 --> 00:39:46,558 rehearse the aftermath of his confession 871 00:39:46,625 --> 00:39:48,527 beyond the actual night. 872 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,631 Whether it be the torment of a friendship lost... 873 00:39:54,999 --> 00:39:58,569 or the joy of a friendship strengthened. 874 00:39:58,636 --> 00:40:01,967 Where his confession opens the floodgates to actually 875 00:40:02,034 --> 00:40:03,708 talking for the first time. 876 00:40:03,775 --> 00:40:05,009 This is so nice, it's like, 877 00:40:05,076 --> 00:40:06,777 like such a difference from just normally 878 00:40:06,844 --> 00:40:09,146 when we're hanging out in the city in a bar, you know, 879 00:40:09,213 --> 00:40:10,647 just playing trivia and... 880 00:40:10,714 --> 00:40:12,717 Maybe it's easiest to choose a path 881 00:40:12,784 --> 00:40:15,087 when you can live the future first. 882 00:40:16,687 --> 00:40:19,658 To free yourself from doubt and regret, 883 00:40:20,692 --> 00:40:22,592 to always know the answers. 884 00:40:22,659 --> 00:40:24,195 As a symbol of support 885 00:40:24,262 --> 00:40:25,462 for those living with AIDS 886 00:40:25,529 --> 00:40:27,397 -and HIV. -So, what is a ribbon? 887 00:40:27,464 --> 00:40:29,499 -Oh, yeah. -Red ribbons. 888 00:40:29,566 --> 00:40:31,168 -I would have lost a point... -Yeah. 889 00:40:31,235 --> 00:40:32,504 ...on the color. 890 00:40:35,806 --> 00:40:38,976 -So, how are you feeling? -Fantastic. 891 00:40:39,043 --> 00:40:41,912 We actually did better than expected, 892 00:40:41,979 --> 00:40:45,549 -when we actually won. -Well, congrats. 893 00:40:45,616 --> 00:40:48,218 Yeah. There were questions that were in my wheelhouse. 894 00:40:48,285 --> 00:40:50,421 The questions that were in my wheelhouse, I was able 895 00:40:50,488 --> 00:40:54,391 to answer those particular questions correctly. 896 00:40:54,458 --> 00:40:56,360 You got everything off your chest, 897 00:40:56,427 --> 00:40:57,928 and it must feel good. 898 00:40:57,995 --> 00:41:02,667 I got it off my chest, and I still won that night. 899 00:41:02,734 --> 00:41:03,968 -Trivia-- -Which is an ex-- 900 00:41:04,035 --> 00:41:05,135 I won a trivia night, 901 00:41:05,202 --> 00:41:08,173 and that's the extra cherry on the sundae, I guess. 902 00:41:10,875 --> 00:41:12,744 There's something I need to... 903 00:41:13,978 --> 00:41:15,014 come clean about. 904 00:41:15,547 --> 00:41:16,715 -Um... -Oh. 905 00:41:18,047 --> 00:41:21,618 So, I knew what the trivia answers were going to be tonight 906 00:41:21,685 --> 00:41:24,921 and I taught you them in advance without you knowing, 907 00:41:24,988 --> 00:41:28,558 and I know you're against cheating and this isn't cheating 908 00:41:28,625 --> 00:41:31,361 because you actually didn't know I was doing it, 909 00:41:31,428 --> 00:41:35,332 but I was just-- wanted you to focus on the confession, 910 00:41:35,399 --> 00:41:38,501 and I wanted your confidence to be up, but I feel terrible 911 00:41:38,568 --> 00:41:40,966 about it, and I just-- I'm sorry. 912 00:41:41,033 --> 00:41:42,241 I wanna say I'm sorry. 913 00:41:46,377 --> 00:41:50,047 Uh, yeah, I... Um... 914 00:41:50,114 --> 00:41:53,185 Okay, I understand what you're saying and um... 915 00:41:54,418 --> 00:41:57,321 I appreciate your motivation, but... 916 00:41:57,388 --> 00:42:01,024 you've tainted, you've ruined the whole thing for me, 917 00:42:01,091 --> 00:42:03,627 'cause I knew the answers, I knew the answers 918 00:42:03,694 --> 00:42:07,231 and I'm on TV now, and everybody now is gonna think 919 00:42:07,298 --> 00:42:09,733 that I didn't know them, that I'm a fake and you... 920 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,603 You know how important this was for me? 921 00:42:12,670 --> 00:42:13,904 This is a mistake. 922 00:42:13,971 --> 00:42:17,809 It was a huge mistake, and you fucked this all up. 923 00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:21,541 You're an awful... 924 00:42:22,714 --> 00:42:23,882 awful person. 925 00:42:41,699 --> 00:42:44,736 I think you're... a great guy. 926 00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:47,072 Like you're a great person. 927 00:42:48,106 --> 00:42:51,108 Oh, well, thank you for the compliment. 928 00:42:51,175 --> 00:42:53,210 Yeah, just... 929 00:42:53,277 --> 00:42:56,781 I don't give compliments a lot, so I wanted to come clean 930 00:42:56,848 --> 00:42:59,349 about just kind of saying the compliment. 931 00:42:59,416 --> 00:43:00,785 I don't affirm people enough. 932 00:43:00,852 --> 00:43:03,487 -Oh. -Yeah, so... 933 00:43:03,554 --> 00:43:06,025 -It's just kind of like-- Yeah. -That's nice of you to say. 934 00:43:07,558 --> 00:43:09,761 -Thank you, -You are, you are. 935 00:43:09,828 --> 00:43:12,297 -That's very touching. -Of course.